We are aware that the sangat of meenas , masands , kurimar , Narimar and ramraiyaas is banned.
But why did guru ji ban them?
Because they acted as if they were guruji's sikhs (only in appearence and name sake) but actually did activiries totally against gurmat. Ramraiyaas went to the extent of changing guru sahibs banee.
I am writing this, because even though I have never met a menas, masands etc. , but recently I have met a Radha Swamee follower in my office. In my office there are no amritdhari Gursikhs , so I thought it would not be bad to do his sangat as he is at least spiritually oriented.
he told me a story that was told to him in his sangat .
From that story I gathered what image of guru sahib is being projected to make empires in the name of spirituality and fleecing innocent people .
Here is the story, take every ""word"" seriously:
" The message of Guru Nanak , that is the message of "sant-mat" , was so powerful that had it been let to spred on its own the whole world would have left their homes and become sadhus. It is for this reason that the khalsa panth was created, so that people would think that , oh , the message of guru Nanak is for these people only . it is not for us. "
On a cursory look at this story you would say, not that big a blasphemy ... there are bigger attacks going on.
Read the passage again and you will come to know what the story teller is selling, he/she is trying to tell u that :
1.) Guru Nanak Patshah Came with a message of Sant-mat not Gurmat , i.e. u dont go to Guru Granth sahib , it is only a holy book ...the true message & naam will be given to you by me the sant ...( p.s. not intend to disrespect the fact that there are many gurmukh sant purakhs like Bhai sahib Randheer Singh , Baba Jarnail Singh ji , Baba Attar Singh ji , baba Isher Singh ji ... but any one of them never opened any shop selling their own form of sikhi & personalized gurmanters etc. )
2.) Following guru Nanak you will become reclusive sadhus ??? (wow ! the followers of a grehist ( householder ) guru will become sadhus !
3)wow this point is hilarious : the Khalsa was created for no divine purpose , it was only to hide the message of Nanak from the rest of the world. please , my friends DO I even need to say anything to refute this statement. What this statement actually means: well all those of you people who don’t want to keep the rehit of 5 kakars (kesh , kirpan , kanga , kara , kachehra) ....can come to my shop and take the mantar , because being a Khalsa is not important.
All above I have written is "ninda" and I know I will have to pay for it. But , when someone tries to undermine the respect of guru sahib in such a way ... how can one stay without speaking up ?
But why did guru ji ban them?
Because they acted as if they were guruji's sikhs (only in appearence and name sake) but actually did activiries totally against gurmat. Ramraiyaas went to the extent of changing guru sahibs banee.
I am writing this, because even though I have never met a menas, masands etc. , but recently I have met a Radha Swamee follower in my office. In my office there are no amritdhari Gursikhs , so I thought it would not be bad to do his sangat as he is at least spiritually oriented.
he told me a story that was told to him in his sangat .
From that story I gathered what image of guru sahib is being projected to make empires in the name of spirituality and fleecing innocent people .
Here is the story, take every ""word"" seriously:
" The message of Guru Nanak , that is the message of "sant-mat" , was so powerful that had it been let to spred on its own the whole world would have left their homes and become sadhus. It is for this reason that the khalsa panth was created, so that people would think that , oh , the message of guru Nanak is for these people only . it is not for us. "
On a cursory look at this story you would say, not that big a blasphemy ... there are bigger attacks going on.
Read the passage again and you will come to know what the story teller is selling, he/she is trying to tell u that :
1.) Guru Nanak Patshah Came with a message of Sant-mat not Gurmat , i.e. u dont go to Guru Granth sahib , it is only a holy book ...the true message & naam will be given to you by me the sant ...( p.s. not intend to disrespect the fact that there are many gurmukh sant purakhs like Bhai sahib Randheer Singh , Baba Jarnail Singh ji , Baba Attar Singh ji , baba Isher Singh ji ... but any one of them never opened any shop selling their own form of sikhi & personalized gurmanters etc. )
2.) Following guru Nanak you will become reclusive sadhus ??? (wow ! the followers of a grehist ( householder ) guru will become sadhus !
3)wow this point is hilarious : the Khalsa was created for no divine purpose , it was only to hide the message of Nanak from the rest of the world. please , my friends DO I even need to say anything to refute this statement. What this statement actually means: well all those of you people who don’t want to keep the rehit of 5 kakars (kesh , kirpan , kanga , kara , kachehra) ....can come to my shop and take the mantar , because being a Khalsa is not important.
All above I have written is "ninda" and I know I will have to pay for it. But , when someone tries to undermine the respect of guru sahib in such a way ... how can one stay without speaking up ?
Comments
Really there is no argument. It says clearly in the Siri Guru Granth Sahib 'Bani Guru, Guru Hai Bani.' So if you believe in the 10 Gurus, you'll understand that Guru Nanak's Guru was the word and Guru Gobind Singh left the Guru-ship with the word. Still we should be kind and respectful to these people as we would be to all people. I met some really nice Namdhari people, and although I don't agree with their philosophy at all, I can still get along with them and appreciate that they do Raag Kirtan and other traditional Sikh practices where we can find common ground. Even though I feel like one of their central beliefs is 'wrong,' it's not my responsibility to try and force them to believe otherwise. They know that most Sikhs believe in the Siri Guru Granth Sahib as their Guru, and if they still don't accept it that's their choice.
Just some thoughts anyway...
WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh!
But there can be only one kind of Sikh in this world. The one who with is whole heart follow what Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib jee Maharaaj told the Sikhs to do, i.e. follow Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee Maharaaj as puran Guru. So anyone who donot believe in Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee Maharaaj as puran SatGuru in my opinion is not a SIKH at all, no matter he/she may do keertan of the Bani written in Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee Maharaaj.
Bhul Chuk Dee Khema....